Ship and fitting skills you need

You start with Frigate skills, which you need to learn to level 4 before being able to pilot a Cruiser. Then you need to learn Cruiser skills to level 4 before Battleships, and so on. You also need increasing levels in the Spaceship Command skill for the larger ships.

Note that ships get slower as they get bigger and more powerful, and that bigger guns have trouble hitting smaller fast ships, so you have to consider this and your fittings when deciding which ship to take into combat.

This diagram from EveMon shows the skill tree required to pilot a Dreadnought, which is a seriously expensive ship designed for large-scale warfare. (Get your copy of EveMon from here).

You can see that to pilot a Battleship, I need 6D (six days) of prerequisites before I can begin learning Battleship skills. To start training to pilot the Dreadnought, I need 112 days of training. You can see that completing Level 1 training in the Dreadnought itself will take 2 hours, and that the skill book would cost 100M ISK. You'll see that I already have sufficient Spaceship Command skills to fly a Battleship, so don't need to learn them further.

The training time for the capital ship weapons you need for a Dreadnought to be fully outfitted would take a comparable amount of time.

It will take a full years' training from noob to being a capable capital pilot.

Most pilots learn how to pilot a Battleship, then stop, and focus on weaponry, warfare, trade, corporation management, or specialised ships such as Assault Frigates or Interceptors, etc.

Capital ship piloting is a career choice in its own right, because of the time investment required. They cost at least 1B ISK to buy a Freighter, nearly 2B for a Dreadnought, and the weapons cost 50M each or more. They're for specialised purposes in PvP.


Racial ships
See this page of my blog for details on ship race choices.

Remember, you can learn any other race's ships - they're just another set of skills. Of course, that is very time-consuming.


Really useful skills to fly a ship properly
Skills useful for all ships.
Very high priority - should be trained to a minimum of level IV.
  1. Electronics (fit more stuff)
  2. Engineering (fit more stuff)
  3. Energy Management (more capacitor)
  4. Energy Systems Operation (cap regenerates quicker)
  5. Shield Management (more shields - harder to kill*)
  6. Shield Operations (regenerate shield quicker*)
  7. Repair Systems (repair armour more efficiently*)
  8. Mechanic (more structure - harder to kill)
  9. Hull Upgrades (fit better armor - harder to kill)
  10. Navigation (fly faster)
  11. Evasive Maneuvering (turn quicker)
  12. Warp Drive Ops (warp farther)
  13. Spaceship Command (turn quicker)
* you should train shield skills if you are Caldari. Gallente or Amarr use armour-tanking, and should train Repair Systems.

Skills useful for combat ships.
High priority - train to at least III:

Drones
  • Drones (use drones)
  • Scout Drone Ops (use combat drones)
  • Drone support skills
Electronics
  • Long Range Targeting (target farther)
  • Signature Analysis (target quicker)
  • Targeting (target more ships)
Engineering
  • Energy Grid Upgrades (use PDS, RCU)
Gunnery and/or Missile Launcher Ops (depends on race)
  • Gunnery/Missile Launcher Ops (see above)
  • All Support Gunnery/Missile skills (as above)
  • Weapons Upgrades (fit more stuff)
  • Advanced Weapons Upgrades (fit more stuff)
Mechanic
  • Repair Systems (even if you shield-tank, this lets you use repairers, then don't have to pay to repair)
Navigation
  • Acceleration Control (go faster w/AB/MWD)
  • Afterburner (go faster)
  • Fuel Conservation (use less cap)
  • High Speed Maneuvering (use MWDs)

Add to these the prerequisites for the ship you want to fly and the weapons you'll use (for example, Tech 2 equipment is a good aim too) plus the tanking skills, armor or shield, and you're set to start using them to their fullest.

(Sourced from this thread).

3 comments:

BluOrange said...

Repair Systems is a combat skill. Amarr and Gallente pilots will usually armour tank, rather than shield tanking. That means deliberately allowing your shield to drop to zero and then repairing your armour at least as quickly as it gets damaged. (This is one of the strengths of Amarr and Gallente in PvP, since it leaves your midslots free for ewar modules.)

Note that if you're not Gallente, there's much less point in training drone skills, and if you're not Caldari, there's much less point in training missile skills.

Drones suck for PvE at high levels, but they're great in PvP. Missiles are fantastic in PvE, less good in PvP (but the difference is nowhere near as strong as it is with drones).

Anonymous said...

> Drones suck for PvE at high levels, but they're great in PvP

lol ? I find drones very effective in lvl4 missions

Viet said...

You can't kill scramblers at short range in battleships during missions. No drones means a slow death. :)